Originally Posted by Jeydra

Looking back on this thread I've come to realize that it is, I would say, largely missing the point.

Shadow Form is overpowered and I would appreciate it dying. Anything so long as it cannot be kept up permanently.
Cry of Pain was not overpowered, at least not by PvE standards. You can only be effective with it if you have lots of copies of it, and still then you need a tank (Perma), which is the real overpowered character. What's more, you need a hex for it to be effective, and you can't use VoR or you won't have AP. Although pre-nerf Cry of Pain was a great skill I wouldn't call it overpowered; still it is nerfed so I'll work around it.
Consumables are overpowered only if your teambuild isn't ideal, because otherwise it's entirely possible to use none. I think the various PvE items (red rock candles etc) are all pretty silly but I won't oppose anyone using them.
Triple Necro is effective but also not overpowered. There are certainly builds that can compare with it.
Save Yourselves is great, but not really overpowered by PvE standards. On its own it is an 8-adrenaline skill that takes a while to charge, and if you're a Warrior you'd be in the frontlines where your SY might not affect the backline.

What I'd call overpowered right now:

Ether Renewal makes Elementalists fantastic healers, too strong even and more powerful than real Monks in most situations. I say remove healing effect from Ether Renewal, which will seriously cut down on the power-Infuse ER can achieve.
For Great Justice makes Save Yourselves spammable, not to mention Dragon Slash for big damage. I say change functionality to you gain one extra strike of adrenaline per successful attack.
Asuran Scan makes physical attacks deal insane damage and tilts the balance of damage even further in favour of physicals over casters. I say either add a cast time of 1s or make it affect all skills (but not autoattacks).
Strength of Honor adds huge damage to all attacks and is plain silly letting you superbuff physical damage to sky-high values, although you can't use it effectively if you're alone (need someone to maintain it on you). I say revert to pre-buff values.
Save Yourselves, although not in my opinion overpowered, is still really strong, especially if you have enough copies of it. Perhaps give Save Yourselves 1s recharge.
BUT YOU'RE KILLING OUR FUN WITH YOUR NERFS!! makes PvE ridiculously easy for the savvy, although some people really like this skill. I say make You Move Like A Dwarf! deal 8k damage, cost 5e and have 0 recharge so everyone can be happy.

Originally Posted by Scary

I really do like the most of your comments... and sad as it is, most of it is true.

Accept for ONE thing... Shadow Form is NOT overpowerd Why wel simple.. It doesnt do any damage

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I really hope you aren't being serious. A skill that makes you indefinitely invincible (except for a few skills barely used by monsters in PvE) is overpowered in any game.

Originally Posted by Improvavel

Balancing PvE isn't exactly easy when doing something like Vloxs HM with h/h or 2p+6h is a nightmare but doing the same Vloxs HM with 8 ppl playing physicals with MoP nukers and ER Eles takes about 15 minutes (or less) per level.

About the consumables stacking - you only really need Essence of Celerity.

Originally Posted by UnChosen

And doing the same place with pug is near impossible. Which is why those OP skills are not really overpowered, because pugs usually don't/can't use them in such a way where they blow through everything. Going with a pug group with perma for any of the dungeon z quests still takes us at least 45 min. The only real exception are the end game speed clears, but that's because the people in those places are generally farmers who practiced the place over and over. The majority of the game area should be balanced with the lowest denominator in mind, and change the the end game areas instead of the skill if they really have a problem with stuff like speed clear.